[Ohrrpgce] Achievement implementations

[Simon Bradley]

I thought Steam had a system where you could update user statistics on
Stream and it could automatically award achievements when they reach a
specific value? I might be imagining that, or getting it confused with some
other achievement system. I don't know if you'd need to save anything
locally for cross-save counters, I think you could just increment a count
on steam.

On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 15:08, Mike Caron <caron.mike at outlook.com> wrote:

> ​The tag_updates function is the place to put hooks for when a tag
> changes.
>
> I assumed there might be a place like that. Thanks!
>
> If achievements are displayed through steam, how does this work? You
> can cause Steam to popup a progress notification with text of your
> choice? Or does it have to be numerical, or predefined in Steam's
> achievement editor?
>
> ​You can just tell it to display progress whenever you want, I believe. I
> was thinking that we would just do this whenever "value % interval == 0".
>
> What about achievements that can be progressed towards in separate
> saved games? The example you put on the wiki of finding all the ways
> to die is one where progress needs to be shared rather than
> save-specific.
>
> ​I was envisioning a game where these deaths were not
> game-over-and-reloading-your-last-save inducing, but I suppose that's not
> clear. I am not sure how we might want to handle cross-save achievements.
> Part of me wants to not handle it at all and let game creators do that
> themselves (if or when custom IO is a thing), but it also wouldn't be
> *Too*​ hard to add it now either. On the third hand, I suspect this is a
> rather more niche feature, so maybe we can just punt the issue down the
> road a bit.
>
> Creating an editor for RELOAD-based data is not yet simple, but I'm
> going to make a start on generalising the Purchases editor (most
> likely) into a class for defining editable RELOAD trees.
>
> Neat. I haven't actually looked too hard into what editors look like these
> days so I'm not sure how bad "not yet simple" is, but if there's anything I
> can do to help, please let me know.
>
> Pleased that documentation already exists on the wiki, documenting
> everything is a big task!
>
> ​If I had to pick one lesson that I've learned over the years, it's that
> documenting things first makes implementation easier. It's keeping that
> documentation up to date that is the challenge 😄
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ohrrpgce <ohrrpgce-bounces at lists.motherhamster.org> on behalf of
> Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* October 28, 2021 6:24 AM
> *To:* ohrrpgce <ohrrpgce at lists.motherhamster.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ohrrpgce] Achievement implementations
>
> This is going quick!
>
> The permanent data storage you're looking for is
> https://rpg.hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/Persist.reld
>
> The tag_updates function is the place to put hooks for when a tag changes.
>
> > A game may wish to expose the current progress at intervals ("defeat 100
> goblins: 20/100") to motivate the player to continue progresing the
> achievement.
>
> If achievements are displayed through steam, how does this work? You
> can cause Steam to popup a progress notification with text of your
> choice? Or does it have to be numerical, or predefined in Steam's
> achievement editor?
>
> What about achievements that can be progressed towards in separate
> saved games? The example you put on the wiki of finding all the ways
> to die is one where progress needs to be shared rather than
> save-specific.
>
> Creating an editor for RELOAD-based data is not yet simple, but I'm
> going to make a start on generalising the Purchases editor (most
> likely) into a class for defining editable RELOAD trees.
>
> Pleased that documentation already exists on the wiki, documenting
> everything is a big task!
>
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 14:03, Mike Caron <caron.mike at outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello friends, sorry I’m late. Got sidetracked with a few things 😊
> >
> >
> >
> > As I’ve been discussing with TMC on the Slime Salad discord, I’m working
> on adding achievements and Steamworks support to the OHRRPGCE. This is
> based on a post TMC made here just about three years ago:
> http://lists.motherhamster.org/pipermail/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org/2018-October/004308.html
> >
> >
> >
> > I’ve currently made progress on integrating Steamworks itself, thanks in
> no small part to TMC helping me get my environment set up, and now I’m
> thinking about how this stuff will work in the engine itself. I’ve been
> documenting stuff on the wiki, and I would encourage everyone to take a
> peek and give any feedback they have. Note that this page is not complete,
> and suggestions to fill in blanks would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > https://rpg.hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/User:Pkmnfrk/Achievements
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m hopeful to get this implemented soon, so I can get back to my next
> 13 year hiatus.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > --
> >
> > Mike Caron
> >
> >
> >
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