[Ohrrpgce] H codename?

Wed Jul 1 18:59:55 PDT 2020

OK, so it may be an option, but shall we go with Hróðvitnir or the popular
Hurdy-gurdy?

I think the pronunciation is somewhere between throw-the-vit-nish and
throw-the-vich-nish (soft 'ch' like in 'loch') and 'throw-the' naturally
run together into one syllable.
https://forvo.com/word/hr%C3%B3%C3%B0vitnir/#is
Compare https://forvo.com/word/mj%C3%B6%C3%B0vitnir/#is

Oh boy, more trouble. I did figure out the other version proble, (turns out
FB has a builtin codepage 437 (English IBM PC) font). But I had to upgrade
to innosetup 5.6 unicode version (5.6 is the last version that runs on Win
2000 and XP; 5.5.x required for older OS, but I wouldn't care about
installers for those anymore), otherwise the installer wouldn't even run
due to the non-ascii .exe filename.
And README-custom.exe needs to be encoded in utf-8 WITH a BOM (which is
non-standard) or the setup would show the readme wrong. And it doesn't show
the version correctly in the title bar of the program if the system
codepage isn't Latin-1. But that's a minor problem.
Still other untested stuff that might break include the svn branch name
(maybe a problem in distrib-win.bat which checks it out? But
distrib-win.bat works fine otherwise), and debian package version.

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 23:28, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:

> Okay, if Hróðvitnir won't break things in a technical level, I am happy
> to go with it. I like the idea of showing off the separation of editor font
> and game font
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 1:21 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 03:56, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Simon!
>>>
>>> I looked up audio of someone From Iceland saying HródDvitnir and it
>>> sounded to me like "hroodvishnish"
>>>
>>> How would we handle the accents? Would it render as
>>> Hr[Armor][Potion]vitnir if someone edits their game's font? What would be
>>> printed on the console if running with --version ?
>>>
>>
>> I'm going to separate the editor and game fonts (in fact that's the next
>> thing I'm working on, maybe even before markup), so people editing their
>> font won't be a problem.
>>
>> I tried it out now and found that I had to update the build system, and
>> also the --version printing so itthe OS encoding instead of Latin-1. Tested
>> it on Linux with utf8, latin1 and gb18030. Still figuring out how to encode
>> correctly on Windows.
>> Printing the version in g/c_debug,txt works too: everything in that file
>> is Latin-1 encoded. Storing the version in general.reld isn't a problem
>> either.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 9:44 AM Simon Bradley <neworiginal at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never actually left the mailing list, for some reason. It was
>>>> interesting to keep an eye on developments even though I am way out of
>>>> touch. I haven't had a decent PC at home for over a decade, but I do now
>>>> have one again, so maybe I should think about a return.
>>>>
>>>
>> So many old users are constantly revisiting the engine, it figures that
>> at some point devs would visit too :)
>> You'd find things haven't changed that much, except the code quality has
>> improved a lot over the years.
>>
>> Input on discussions is also welcome. I've been meaning to send an email
>> to the list discussing embedding a new script intepreter (I'm evaluating
>> squirrel, micropython and lua) and using that instead of FB for a lot of
>> things, especially editors. I constantly hear people say they want to
>> contribute but don't want to learn/install FB.
>>
>>
>>>> I don't mind Hurdygurdy, although it will always remind me of the
>>>> Butthole Surfers cover of the Donovan song Hurdy Gurdy Man. I quite like
>>>> the sound of Hullabaloo.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow, hi Simon! Very surprised. Hope you're doing cool things and well.
>>>>>
>>>>> The suggestions were, for reference
>>>>> https://www.slimesalad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=137186#137186
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 00:34, Simon Bradley <neworiginal at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I vote for Hatstand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 13:30, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, must Hróðvitnir be excluded? As a bit of a prank :) I'm more
>>>>>>> concerned that I can't pronounce it :)
>>>>>>> (Aside, I hear Fenrir has finished Vikings and is just working
>>>>>>> through changes based on playtester feedback.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I... hadn't actually properly looked into what kind of instrument
>>>>>>> hurdy gurdys are. They're awesome! Would the spelling "hurdy-gurdy" be
>>>>>>> acceptable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 22:40, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I kept forgetting we need to pick the H codename
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My favorites:
>>>>>>>> Hurdygurdy
>>>>>>>> Harengiform
>>>>>>>> Humgruffin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also do like Fenrir's "Hróðvitnir" but I do feel like the accents
>>>>>>>> are a dealbreaker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think "hurdygurdy" was the name with the most seconds on the
>>>>>>>> forum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> James Paige
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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