[Ohrrpgce] Steam Deck Walthros g_debug

Ralph Versteegen teeemcee at gmail.com
Tue Apr 25 22:18:44 PDT 2023 

Update: they reported that the problem doesn't happen with a Linux native
build of the OHR. Also, they're using Manjaro, which is the same Linux
distribution as the Steam Deck, so I think it must be a Manjaro/Arch +
Proton specific problem.

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 22:52, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:

> We just had a report about the same slow battles and crashing bug from
> someone running (the False Skies demo) under Proton, but for the first time
> on a Linux desktop, so it's not Steam Deck specific afterall. But linux
> native builds (maybe?) not running on the Deck might still be.
>
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 22:21, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, good find.
>>
>> There are commandline flags we can run games with to get debug logs
>> either from Proton or from the Steam Runtime. Adam, I assume you suffer the
>> battle slowdown and memory leak bug when running games under Proton? If so,
>> while you have a Windows build, maybe you could run with Proton logging and
>> see whether it's useful? Set the game's launch options to `PROTON_LOG=1
>> %command%` and then look for $HOME/steam-$APPID.log.
>>
>> It would be great if you or someone also tried a Linux OHR build again,
>> by using the "Steam Linux Runtime" compatibility tool setting as mentioned
>> in that Reddit post. The part in that post about needing to run the game in
>> desktop mode from the file browser might not be true for the OHR. But if it
>> is, that's exactly the problem we want to solve, by getting a debug log
>> from Steam Runtime. Run the game with `STEAM_LINUX_RUNTIME_LOG=1
>> %command%`  as the 'launch options', then look for
>> ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_soldier/var/slr-app<appid>-<timestamp>.log
>>
>> Paul: I guess you could submit a Steam Deck Compatibility Review request
>> as a way to get Steam to use Linux builds on the Deck. But first we should
>> find out whether they actually work.
>>
>> My own experiments:
>>
>> I tried running a few OHR games using "Steam Linux Runtime" (which means
>> Steam Runtime 2 specifically) as the prescribed Compatibility Tool instead
>> of the default way, because that should be much closer to running the game
>> on a Deck. (However it might be running "scout_on_soldier".)  I think this
>> might be the reason the Deck defaults to running Windows rather than Linux
>> binaries: because Steam on Linux systems normally uses Steam Runtime 1 (aka
>> Scout) to run linux binaries (which is mostly just a set of standard
>> libraries on top of the user's OS; legacy but still the default for
>> compatibility reasons), while apparently the Deck uses Runtime v2 (aka
>> Soldier), which runs the game in a container. Eg.g I saw a issue saying
>> that all Electron (Chrome)-based games fail to run on Deck because Soldier
>> is missing a certain library for printing.
>>
>> But the OHR runs fine under Soldier, so that's not it. I also tried
>> running OHR games with Windows build using Proton 8.0-1 (which actually
>> uses Steam Runtime 3) but that works perfectly too.
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 14:03, Paul Harrington <
>> paulclementharrington at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like this is a known issue with other games too:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/CrossCode/comments/x8kdqm/on_steam_decklinux_steam_is_defaulting_to_the/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023, 8:44 PM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If we want to force Steam to use a certain build (e.g. the Linux one)
>>>> for testing, one way to do it is to make it a private (passworded) beta. (I
>>>> don't know any other way.)
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 02:02, Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm... yep, sounds about right.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 2:33 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alright so now that it's working... it's running the windows build,
>>>>>> which Steam has under its own volition decided to download instead of the
>>>>>> linux one? And you don't know whether it had a linux or windows build at
>>>>>> the time that it wasn't launching?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 01:09, Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, we may have had some crossed wires here. I told Paul it wasn't
>>>>>>> launching on Deck, so he talked to you, I imagine. I'm not sure which
>>>>>>> distros are included when you download on Deck, but I only saw the one exe,
>>>>>>> and the failed starts didn't generate any log files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 6:50 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm confused. Yes, that log is definitely from a Windows build
>>>>>>>> under Proton. But wasn't the idea to get the Linux build running on the
>>>>>>>> Deck? Didn't you report that it didn't run? What build is it using now
>>>>>>>> after switching to Desktop mode and back?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 01:10, Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, this one was definitely from the Proton run. I hadn't yet run
>>>>>>>>> it in desktop mode.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023, 4:49 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. But that's a Windows build of the OHR running under
>>>>>>>>>> Proton, not the Linux one we're trying to get working (since the Windows
>>>>>>>>>> one suffers from battle slowdowns). Maybe switching to Desktop mode for
>>>>>>>>>> some reason caused Steam to switch to the Windows build? I've tried
>>>>>>>>>> searching the web but have found no mention of it. Is there an option in
>>>>>>>>>> the game properties to switch builds? I'd be happy to have any leads on the
>>>>>>>>>> battle slowdown too, though. Recent nightlies can run CPU Usage debug mode
>>>>>>>>>> in battles too, but that debug log is from version 20221207.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But have a look for a g_debug_archive.txt, which should be
>>>>>>>>>> preserved whenever Steam installs game updates (or reinstalls), so could
>>>>>>>>>> contain messages from the Linux build.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 at 14:03, Adam Perry via Ohrrpgce <
>>>>>>>>>> ohrrpgce at lists.motherhamster.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Having pasted that in, I'm not convinced it's relevant. The game
>>>>>>>>>>> starts on desktop mode, and on examination, the logs below seem to cover
>>>>>>>>>>> the initial boot of the game, before I encountered any issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I have done it in desktop, it is also working from the
>>>>>>>>>>> normal Deck interface. Problem solved?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 8:56 PM Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry this is terse; Deck typing is hard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't find/load crashrpt.dll
>>>>>>>>>>>> exchndl.dll not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0   ----Starting OHRRPGCE Game----
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  04-02-2023 19:21:30
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  OHRRPGCE wip 20221207.13151
>>>>>>>>>>>> gfx_sdl2+directx+fb/music_sdl2 FreeBASIC 1.08.1 (2021-07-05) gcc 8.1.0 x86
>>>>>>>>>>>> SSE2 pdb buildname=sdl2  Built on vampirecell -g FB_ERR=224 -gen gcc Win32
>>>>>>>>>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  exepath:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal, exe:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\walthrosrenewal.exe
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  orig_dir:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  curdir:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  Runtime info:   music_sdl2, SDL 2.0.22, SDL_Mixer 2.6.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Windows 6.2.9200 (8/Server 2012 or later) , ANSI codepage: 1252
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  config:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\ohrrpgce_config.ini
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  Steam initialized
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  set_resolution 320*200
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  Setting graphics scaling to x2 change_windowsize=-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  Initialising gfx_sdl2...
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.3  setvideomode zoom=2 w*h = 640,400
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.7  gfx_sdl2 "SDL 2.0.22 (1 joysticks) Driver: windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Drivers: windows dummy) Render driver: direct3d (Drivers: direct3d
>>>>>>>>>>>> (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) direct3d11 (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) opengl
>>>>>>>>>>>> (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) opengles2 (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) software
>>>>>>>>>>>> (vsync,textarget))"
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.7  disable_native_text_input=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>  0.7  unlock_resolution(320,200)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.1  music_sdl2, SDL_Mixer 2.6.1 (48000Hz, Music
>>>>>>>>>>>> decoders:WAVE,XMP,MOD,DRMP3,MP3,OGG,NATIVEMIDI,MIDI Sample
>>>>>>>>>>>> decoders:WAVE,AIFF,VOC,MOD,MP3,OGG,MID)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.1  Setting default window settings...
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  set_resolution 320*200
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  unlock_resolution(320,200)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  Setting graphics scaling to x2 change_windowsize=-1
>>>>>>>>>>>> end_debug: no debug/error messages during startup (skipping
>>>>>>>>>>>> rest of startup)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2   ----Loading
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\walthrosrenewal.rpg----
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  curdir:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  tmpdir:
>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\users\steamuser\Temp\ohrrpgce20230402192130.53.tmp\
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  settings_dir: C:\users\steamuser\AppData\Roaming\OHRRPGCE
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  config:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\ohrrpgce_config.ini
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  general.reld not present, creating
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  savedir:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\walthrosrenewal.saves
>>>>>>>>>>>>  5.1  Name: Walthros: Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>>  5.1  Partial game data upgrade...
>>>>>>>>>>>>  5.1  Last edited by: [[OHRRPGCE wip 20221207.13151
>>>>>>>>>>>> gfx_sdl2+directx+fb/music_sdl2 FreeBASIC 1.08.1 (2021-07-05) gcc 8.1.0 x86
>>>>>>>>>>>> SSE2 pdb buildname=sdl2  Built on vampirecell -g FB_ERR=224 -gen gcc Win32
>>>>>>>>>>>> 32-bit]] branch_rev 13151
>>>>>>>>>>>>  5.2  archinym creation info: OHRRPGCE wip 20181009
>>>>>>>>>>>>  6.5  plotscr.hsd version: 3U
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  lock_resolution()
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  Desktop resolution: 1280*800
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  automatic_scale_factor(0.8), screen size: 1280*800
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  Setting graphics scaling to x3 change_windowsize=-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  recenter_window_hint()
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  gfx_sdl2_set_window_size 320,200, zoom=3
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  config gfx.fullscreen = , genFullscreen = 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  genRungameFullscreenIndependent: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7  Joystick 0 GUID 030000005e0400008e020000010072
>>>>>>>>>>>> instance_id 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7   Opened as gamecontroller Xbox 360 Controller
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7   Type: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>  030000005e0400008e02000001007200,*,a:b0,b:b1,x:b2,y:b3,back:b6,guide:b10,start:b7,leftstick:b8,rightstick:b9,leftshoulder:b4,rightshoulder:b5,dpup:h0.1,dpdown:h0.4,dpleft:h0.8,dpright:h0.2,leftx:a0,lefty:a1,rightx:a2,righty:a3,lefttrigger:a4,righttrigger:a5,platform:Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7  Opened joystick 0 Xbox 360 Controller (id 0) -- 11
>>>>>>>>>>>> buttons 6 axes 1 hats 0 balls
>>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  savegame: 32 is special non-normal slot, skipping update
>>>>>>>>>>>> of lastsaveslot
>>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  Saving in slot 32
>>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  savegame: 33 is special non-normal slot, skipping update
>>>>>>>>>>>> of lastsaveslot
>>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  Saving in slot 33
>>>>>>>>>>>> 109.0  savegame: 32 is special non-normal slot, skipping update
>>>>>>>>>>>> of lastsaveslot
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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