[Ohrrpgce] Steam Deck Walthros g_debug

Ralph Versteegen teeemcee at gmail.com
Sat Apr 22 03:52:10 PDT 2023 

We just had a report about the same slow battles and crashing bug from
someone running (the False Skies demo) under Proton, but for the first time
on a Linux desktop, so it's not Steam Deck specific afterall. But linux
native builds (maybe?) not running on the Deck might still be.

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 22:21, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, good find.
>
> There are commandline flags we can run games with to get debug logs either
> from Proton or from the Steam Runtime. Adam, I assume you suffer the battle
> slowdown and memory leak bug when running games under Proton? If so, while
> you have a Windows build, maybe you could run with Proton logging and see
> whether it's useful? Set the game's launch options to `PROTON_LOG=1
> %command%` and then look for $HOME/steam-$APPID.log.
>
> It would be great if you or someone also tried a Linux OHR build again, by
> using the "Steam Linux Runtime" compatibility tool setting as mentioned in
> that Reddit post. The part in that post about needing to run the game in
> desktop mode from the file browser might not be true for the OHR. But if it
> is, that's exactly the problem we want to solve, by getting a debug log
> from Steam Runtime. Run the game with `STEAM_LINUX_RUNTIME_LOG=1
> %command%`  as the 'launch options', then look for
> ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_soldier/var/slr-app<appid>-<timestamp>.log
>
> Paul: I guess you could submit a Steam Deck Compatibility Review request
> as a way to get Steam to use Linux builds on the Deck. But first we should
> find out whether they actually work.
>
> My own experiments:
>
> I tried running a few OHR games using "Steam Linux Runtime" (which means
> Steam Runtime 2 specifically) as the prescribed Compatibility Tool instead
> of the default way, because that should be much closer to running the game
> on a Deck. (However it might be running "scout_on_soldier".)  I think this
> might be the reason the Deck defaults to running Windows rather than Linux
> binaries: because Steam on Linux systems normally uses Steam Runtime 1 (aka
> Scout) to run linux binaries (which is mostly just a set of standard
> libraries on top of the user's OS; legacy but still the default for
> compatibility reasons), while apparently the Deck uses Runtime v2 (aka
> Soldier), which runs the game in a container. Eg.g I saw a issue saying
> that all Electron (Chrome)-based games fail to run on Deck because Soldier
> is missing a certain library for printing.
>
> But the OHR runs fine under Soldier, so that's not it. I also tried
> running OHR games with Windows build using Proton 8.0-1 (which actually
> uses Steam Runtime 3) but that works perfectly too.
>
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 14:03, Paul Harrington <
> paulclementharrington at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It looks like this is a known issue with other games too:
>>
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/CrossCode/comments/x8kdqm/on_steam_decklinux_steam_is_defaulting_to_the/
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023, 8:44 PM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If we want to force Steam to use a certain build (e.g. the Linux one)
>>> for testing, one way to do it is to make it a private (passworded) beta. (I
>>> don't know any other way.)
>>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 02:02, Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm... yep, sounds about right.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 2:33 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alright so now that it's working... it's running the windows build,
>>>>> which Steam has under its own volition decided to download instead of the
>>>>> linux one? And you don't know whether it had a linux or windows build at
>>>>> the time that it wasn't launching?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 01:09, Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, we may have had some crossed wires here. I told Paul it wasn't
>>>>>> launching on Deck, so he talked to you, I imagine. I'm not sure which
>>>>>> distros are included when you download on Deck, but I only saw the one exe,
>>>>>> and the failed starts didn't generate any log files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 6:50 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm confused. Yes, that log is definitely from a Windows build under
>>>>>>> Proton. But wasn't the idea to get the Linux build running on the Deck?
>>>>>>> Didn't you report that it didn't run? What build is it using now after
>>>>>>> switching to Desktop mode and back?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 01:10, Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, this one was definitely from the Proton run. I hadn't yet run
>>>>>>>> it in desktop mode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023, 4:49 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. But that's a Windows build of the OHR running under
>>>>>>>>> Proton, not the Linux one we're trying to get working (since the Windows
>>>>>>>>> one suffers from battle slowdowns). Maybe switching to Desktop mode for
>>>>>>>>> some reason caused Steam to switch to the Windows build? I've tried
>>>>>>>>> searching the web but have found no mention of it. Is there an option in
>>>>>>>>> the game properties to switch builds? I'd be happy to have any leads on the
>>>>>>>>> battle slowdown too, though. Recent nightlies can run CPU Usage debug mode
>>>>>>>>> in battles too, but that debug log is from version 20221207.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But have a look for a g_debug_archive.txt, which should be
>>>>>>>>> preserved whenever Steam installs game updates (or reinstalls), so could
>>>>>>>>> contain messages from the Linux build.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 at 14:03, Adam Perry via Ohrrpgce <
>>>>>>>>> ohrrpgce at lists.motherhamster.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having pasted that in, I'm not convinced it's relevant. The game
>>>>>>>>>> starts on desktop mode, and on examination, the logs below seem to cover
>>>>>>>>>> the initial boot of the game, before I encountered any issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now that I have done it in desktop, it is also working from the
>>>>>>>>>> normal Deck interface. Problem solved?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 8:56 PM Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry this is terse; Deck typing is hard.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't find/load crashrpt.dll
>>>>>>>>>>> exchndl.dll not found
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0   ----Starting OHRRPGCE Game----
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  04-02-2023 19:21:30
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  OHRRPGCE wip 20221207.13151 gfx_sdl2+directx+fb/music_sdl2
>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBASIC 1.08.1 (2021-07-05) gcc 8.1.0 x86 SSE2 pdb buildname=sdl2  Built
>>>>>>>>>>> on vampirecell -g FB_ERR=224 -gen gcc Win32 32-bit
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  exepath:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal, exe:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\walthrosrenewal.exe
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  orig_dir:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  curdir:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  Runtime info:   music_sdl2, SDL 2.0.22, SDL_Mixer 2.6.1
>>>>>>>>>>>  Windows 6.2.9200 (8/Server 2012 or later) , ANSI codepage: 1252
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.0  config:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\ohrrpgce_config.ini
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  Steam initialized
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  set_resolution 320*200
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  Setting graphics scaling to x2 change_windowsize=-1
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.2  Initialising gfx_sdl2...
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.3  setvideomode zoom=2 w*h = 640,400
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.7  gfx_sdl2 "SDL 2.0.22 (1 joysticks) Driver: windows
>>>>>>>>>>> (Drivers: windows dummy) Render driver: direct3d (Drivers: direct3d
>>>>>>>>>>> (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) direct3d11 (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) opengl
>>>>>>>>>>> (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) opengles2 (hwaccel,vsync,textarget) software
>>>>>>>>>>> (vsync,textarget))"
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.7  disable_native_text_input=0
>>>>>>>>>>>  0.7  unlock_resolution(320,200)
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.1  music_sdl2, SDL_Mixer 2.6.1 (48000Hz, Music
>>>>>>>>>>> decoders:WAVE,XMP,MOD,DRMP3,MP3,OGG,NATIVEMIDI,MIDI Sample
>>>>>>>>>>> decoders:WAVE,AIFF,VOC,MOD,MP3,OGG,MID)
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.1  Setting default window settings...
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  set_resolution 320*200
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  unlock_resolution(320,200)
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  Setting graphics scaling to x2 change_windowsize=-1
>>>>>>>>>>> end_debug: no debug/error messages during startup (skipping rest
>>>>>>>>>>> of startup)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2   ----Loading
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\walthrosrenewal.rpg----
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  curdir:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  tmpdir:
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\users\steamuser\Temp\ohrrpgce20230402192130.53.tmp\
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  settings_dir: C:\users\steamuser\AppData\Roaming\OHRRPGCE
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  config:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\ohrrpgce_config.ini
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  general.reld not present, creating
>>>>>>>>>>>  1.2  savedir:
>>>>>>>>>>> Z:\home\deck\.local\share\Steam\steamapps\common\Walthros
>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal\walthrosrenewal.saves
>>>>>>>>>>>  5.1  Name: Walthros: Renewal
>>>>>>>>>>>  5.1  Partial game data upgrade...
>>>>>>>>>>>  5.1  Last edited by: [[OHRRPGCE wip 20221207.13151
>>>>>>>>>>> gfx_sdl2+directx+fb/music_sdl2 FreeBASIC 1.08.1 (2021-07-05) gcc 8.1.0 x86
>>>>>>>>>>> SSE2 pdb buildname=sdl2  Built on vampirecell -g FB_ERR=224 -gen gcc Win32
>>>>>>>>>>> 32-bit]] branch_rev 13151
>>>>>>>>>>>  5.2  archinym creation info: OHRRPGCE wip 20181009
>>>>>>>>>>>  6.5  plotscr.hsd version: 3U
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  lock_resolution()
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  Desktop resolution: 1280*800
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  automatic_scale_factor(0.8), screen size: 1280*800
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  Setting graphics scaling to x3 change_windowsize=-1
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  recenter_window_hint()
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  gfx_sdl2_set_window_size 320,200, zoom=3
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  config gfx.fullscreen = , genFullscreen = 0
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.0  genRungameFullscreenIndependent: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7  Joystick 0 GUID 030000005e0400008e020000010072 instance_id
>>>>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7   Opened as gamecontroller Xbox 360 Controller
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7   Type: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7
>>>>>>>>>>>  030000005e0400008e02000001007200,*,a:b0,b:b1,x:b2,y:b3,back:b6,guide:b10,start:b7,leftstick:b8,rightstick:b9,leftshoulder:b4,rightshoulder:b5,dpup:h0.1,dpdown:h0.4,dpleft:h0.8,dpright:h0.2,leftx:a0,lefty:a1,rightx:a2,righty:a3,lefttrigger:a4,righttrigger:a5,platform:Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>  7.7  Opened joystick 0 Xbox 360 Controller (id 0) -- 11 buttons
>>>>>>>>>>> 6 axes 1 hats 0 balls
>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  savegame: 32 is special non-normal slot, skipping update
>>>>>>>>>>> of lastsaveslot
>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  Saving in slot 32
>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  savegame: 33 is special non-normal slot, skipping update
>>>>>>>>>>> of lastsaveslot
>>>>>>>>>>> 66.7  Saving in slot 33
>>>>>>>>>>> 109.0  savegame: 32 is special non-normal slot, skipping update
>>>>>>>>>>> of lastsaveslot
>>>>>>>>>>>
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