[Ohrrpgce] Can't log in to wiki over HTTP

James Paige Bob at hamsterrepublic.com
Thu Sep 17 10:10:14 PDT 2020


Does one-click Mediawiki still exist on Dreamhost? I spent some time
hunting for it, and could not find it.

Maybe they deprecated it and disabled new installs?... Or maybe I am just
looking in the wrong place :D

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 PM Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:

> I set it up with the Dreamhost one-click. There's an updater script that I
> could run, but I think I've only done so once.
>
> I seem to remember you're on Dreamhost as well. If you're having
> difficulty upgrading, you may have an easier time adding a fresh install to
> your host and transferring the contents.
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:42 AM James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How did you set it up, and how do you keep it updated? Maybe I just need
>> to mimic your config :)
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:09 PM Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you want to use the Slime Salad wiki? I'm not sure there's anything
>>> on it worth keeping at this point.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 9:50 AM James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I turned on https:// redirect for the whole site. Seems to be working
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the local upgrade process, and no luck. The git repo metadata
>>>> is hopelessly corrupted.
>>>>
>>>> I won't get that solved today :P
>>>>
>>>> I'll probably have to set up a whole new mediawiki instance, make sure
>>>> it has all the plugins we need, port over the anti-spam hacks, and then
>>>> restore a database backup into it. Arg. That ain't happening today :(
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know a fully managed mediawiki hosting site? Doesn't have to be
>>>> a free one.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> James Paige
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:08 AM James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would be happy to disable http completely, and always redirect http
>>>>> to https.
>>>>>
>>>>> People who have an OS so old that it can't support https are welcome
>>>>> to open a web browser on a separate device.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't actually know how to do this just for the login page. I think
>>>>> I remember an option in the dreamhost config panel to do this for the whole
>>>>> site, but I would have to hunt for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> A *MUCH* bigger security concern is that I can't upgrade Mediawiki
>>>>> anymore. It has been years since running "git pull" on a large repo in a
>>>>> shell script on a dreamhost shared account was a viable option.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a clunky workaround where I would rsync the whole thing locally,
>>>>> upgrade it, rsync it back up to dreamhost, and then run the last stage of
>>>>> the upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am always terrified that I will break the whole thing every time I
>>>>> do that, but maybe I will give it a try today since I happen to be on a
>>>>> vacation day and have time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would really like to move the whole wiki to a place where the
>>>>> upgrades were automatically managed for me. I haven't had time to look into
>>>>> that (in years)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 9:57 AM Adam Perry <arperry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not a good idea to have an HTTP login page. Your credentials
>>>>>> are sent in plain text when you log in via HTTP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realize that the OHR wiki isn't the most high-profile target for
>>>>>> hackers, but it's still a bad idea. We don't need to allow wiki editing to
>>>>>> everyone able to use the engine if it means compromising security.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 8:45 PM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Holly reported, and I can confirm, that you can't log into the wiki,
>>>>>>> or create an account, when accessing it over HTTP instead of HTTPS. (I
>>>>>>> think I remember seeing this already quite a while ago.) You get the
>>>>>>> following message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action
>>>>>>> has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please
>>>>>>> resubmit the form."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is nice to be able to access the wiki via HTTP, since HTTPS is
>>>>>>> inaccessible from ancient OSes such as some of those we support. If the
>>>>>>> login page could redirect from HTTP to HTTPS...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, maybe I should file such things on github instead...
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