[Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/9289 Update whatsnew.txt to note that you can now browse for items rather tha

Wed Sep 6 09:38:01 PDT 2017

On 7 September 2017 at 03:26, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> This is really nice!
>> I didn't realise that there were so many places in Custom where you
>> select an item. This makes me realise I made a mistake in the dwimmercrafty
>> highlights.
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>> Looking further ahead, what about grouping or reordering data records for
>> easier browsing (as was being discussed on SS)? OK, reordering them can be
>> accommodated in ThingBrowser easily, but not grouping them. I guess we may
>> need an alternative (non-grid) view for that. Although conceivably we could
>> have categories listed as things, which are replaced with to their contents
>> when you select them (but then how can you collaspe them?). With colours
>> used to show the original grouping. Or even enter ThingBrowser recursively.
>> Or something like System Preferences: https://images.techhive.com/im
>> ages/article/2013/10/mavericks_prefs_categories-we-dont-
>> need-em-100065975-orig.png
>> Or tiled icons with groups: https://www.tenforums.com/atta
>> chments/tutorials/21877d1434704983-add-remove-folders-pc-
>> windows-10-a-withreg.png
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> Yes, I think there are a lot of possibilities, like sorting my name
> instead of ID number, or sorting by some kind of arbitrary user-defined
> reorganization. Categories could be an option for that. We could add a new
> lump, or a new node in general.reld for user-defined sorting and/or
> categorization of generically browseable things.
>

Ah yes, different views. Would be nice to have extra sort keys available,
like equip type or cost for items.
Regarding categories, I wasn't sure whether to go for exclusive categories
or non-exclusive groups/a tagging system. Groups are a lot more powerful
(e.g. "leather items", "Lvl 1 equip") but would mean trickier UI.

I hadn't thought about how to actually store the ordering/grouping data.
Can't currently think of any reason to prefer one way or another.

> I also want to make it possible to optionally jump to the appropriate
> editor from the thing browser, and use a ThingBrowser as an intermediate
> step when enter_space_click on an editable attack, enemy, textbox, etc.
>
> I was also toying with the idea of using a ThingBrowser when you first go
> into an editor from the main menu, rather than going directly to record 0
> (which honestly is almost never going to be the record you actually want to
> work on)
>

I agree, that was what I had in mind also.

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>> I notice that the scroll wheel moves the selection up or down, which
>> isn't how it behaves in other menus, where it scrolls the menu view
>> up/down. For that matter End and Home don't work.
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> I can fix both of those.
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> I was also planning to make it possible to type to jump to a match-- but
> now I am thinking it might be better to type to re-filter the list to only
> display matches; for example, type "foo" in the thingbrowser and have it
> hide everything that does not contain "foo" (I guess I can do both, with a
> hotkey for one)
>

That'll be neat.
Rather than jumping or not, maybe the hotkey could be whether to gray out
the non-matching things, or remove them from the grid entirely. In either
case, you won't need hotkey to jump to an item, if the selection
unconditionally moves to the first match.
I'm a big fan of incremental search (meaning that every character you add
to the search query immediately updates the results), which works well with
both approaches.

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>> Unsurprisingly, plankmenu controls aren't really done yet. I'm interested
>> in rewriting plank_menu_move_cursor to better find the nearest plank. Then
>> I can remove the start_parent argument from a bunch of functions. It seems
>> to be just a kludge for the poor behaviour of plank_menu_move_cursor.
>>
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> Yeah, I think you are right. You are quite welcome to make any changes to
> plank_menu_move_cursor() I don't think I'll be touching the plankmenu code
> too much right now as I focus on writing more thingbrowser subclasses for
> browsing other types of things.
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> ---
> James
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>> On 6 September 2017 at 10:15, <subversion at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:
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>>> james
>>> 2017-09-05 15:15:36 -0700 (Tue, 05 Sep 2017)
>>> 94
>>> Update whatsnew.txt to note that you can now browse for items rather
>>> than typing the id number
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>>> U   wip/whatsnew.txt
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