[Ohrrpgce] trouble with browsing for a textbox

[Ralph Versteegen]

Oh, I see I actually skipped too quickly over you email and missed what you
were suggesting. You wrote "a big LIST of textboxes".

That idea actually sounds just like the tree/group view of data records we
were discussing on SS (although I don't think anyone mentioned previewing
the data records, it's obvious that we would want that).
So yes, I agree :)

On 10 July 2017 at 16:20, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, it's a possibility. But wouldn't it be much less work and more useful
> to instead improve the textbox editor so that it's better at browsing for
> textboxes? The Text Search option could be moved to the top of the menu for
> easy access (and also linked to a hotkey), and I'd like to have it do
> incremental search (meaning that after every keypress it jumps to the first
> matching textbox). Then having a dedicated search menu would only save you
> about one keypress
>
> This is closely related to what Virtuous Sword suggested about showing
> some of the main bits of attack/enemy data right on the toplevel menu of
> the attack/enemy editor, to make browsing/searching much easier. The same
> preview information would be useful both in a dedicated search/browse tool
> and in the actual editor. It's just that the textbox editor already has a
> pretty good preview.
>
> On 10 July 2017 at 14:10, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, this reminds me of what I was thinking about a while back.
>>
>> What about an intermediate step
>>
>> When you press enter on something that lets you edit textboxes, you are
>> taken to a simple browser. It would show a big list of textboxes, maybe id
>> number on the left, text preview on the right, with a quick full-text
>> search. You could find the one you want even more quickly than you could in
>> the full textbox editor. If you press enter, you confirm that box and
>> return to the previous menu. If you press something else, maybe E you go
>> into the editor. You could also jump directly into the editor adding a new
>> one by pressing + or insert
>>
>> I think a menu like that could actually be made to be pretty generic. It
>> could even be a base class, and we can have oo overrides for the part that
>> provides the preview-text, the searchable text, and the edit-action.
>>
>> ---
>> James
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not too keen on the extra friction of showing prompts as you jump
>>> between menus.
>>> One option would be if selecting the Previous Menu item or pressing ESC
>>> returns textbox id -1 (none selected), while you have to select the
>>> <-Textbox #-> line to return/change the textbox ID. This would be very
>>> natural when you browse for a textbox: hit enter in the original menu,
>>> pressing left/right to search, hit enter to select.
>>> The problem is that it's not obvious that you can even click/press enter
>>> on that menu item, but that could be fixed by showing a message at the
>>> bottom of the screen (only when called from another menu).
>>>
>>> Another solution to your complaint may be Ctrl+Z to undo, although it
>>> can't help if you don't even notice. This can be implemented in intgrabber
>>> (and strgrabber, etc). I actually started implementing it in strgrabber
>>> (there's nothing I haven't started on...)
>>>
>>> On 10 July 2017 at 10:52, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not entirely happy with how this works.
>>>>
>>>> It is great when I want to assign a textbox in a place that doesn't
>>>> have a textbox assigned yet. I can just press enter, and find the right
>>>> one, and I am done!
>>>>
>>>> But what about when I already have a text box assigned to this NPC, and
>>>> I remember, oops! I should add an instead-box for what the Mayor says after
>>>> the "Beat Baddie" tag is turned on.
>>>>
>>>> I press enter on the mayor NPC's textbox, and then I add my instead
>>>> box, and then I press ESC, and... uh oh, I overwrote the NPC's original
>>>> textbox with the ID of the instead box, and I probably didn't even know it
>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>>> What if we had a confirmation prompt when you exit back?
>>>>
>>>> "Use box 710 for this NPC?"
>>>> "Keep box 702 for this NPC?"
>>>>
>>>> with a preview line for each?
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> James
>>>>
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