[Ohrrpgce] Distribute menu Linux tarball

[James Paige]

I know that Motrya was the first OHR game to be greenlit, but that JSH is
just waiting until the whole game is done before moving forward. I heard
about Ruin and C.Kane in the same week, so I have no idea which was first.

I have only browsed the Steam docs, and felt pretty confused by more than
half of it. They have a bunch of vocabulary that I have to learn. As far as
I can gather, a Depot is a bunch of files for a game on a specific
platform. It might have some version-control-repository features, but I am
fuzzy on that part. Each Depot has one or more "Builds". I am really not
sure what exactly we need to export for Steam, or how it should be
organized yet.

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James

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, I hadn't heard C.Kane was greenlit! I thought Ruin was first. What's
> a steam depot?
>
> On 8 July 2015 at 04:16, Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that would be nice. How many GNU/Linux users can actually install
>> .deb files without manually extracting files out anyway?
>>
>> As you said, it's not necessary to statically link the binaries, we can
>> set a link flag to look in the same directory as the executable (or some
>> other relative directory) for shared libraries with "gcc
>> -Wl,-rpath,'$ORIGIN'"
>>
>> Statically linking them would have the benefit of reducing the total
>> package size though.
>>
>> I looked at how several Linux games I had were packaged/distributed.
>> Almost all of them included separate binaries for x86 and for x64, though
>> Jason Rohrer only distributed 32 bit binaries and when I pointed out to him
>> that none of his games would work on non-multilib 64 bit linux (e.g. Ubuntu
>> by default) he said no one had complained (but I think his games
>> distributed via steam should always run, since steam provides a full set of
>> libraries).
>>
>> Almost everyone included .sos for SDL/SDL2 and other SDL libraries if
>> they used them, as well as libraries like GLEW
>> A few of the games included libstdc++.so.X or libgcc_s or similiar
>> A few included libogg, etc.
>> Nobody seemed to have statically linked anything such as libc or other
>> common libraries
>> Steam includes heaps of libraries to emulate Ubuntu 12.04 that override
>> many of the system ones; on Slackware certain games would not run until I
>> deleted this whole lot.
>>
>> Since we don't even support x64 yet, I suggest just including libSDL and
>> libSDL_mixer and calling it a day. Probably a bad idea to statically link
>> anything.
>>
>> On 7 July 2015 at 08:23, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So today I was reading some docs about Steam for Linux, and trying to
>>> figure out what files are needed.
>>>
>>> That reminded me of an earlier idea that had fallen by the wayside,
>>> which was to allow export of a Linux Tarball equivalent to the Windows Zip
>>> from the DIstribute menu.
>>>
>>> Superficially it should be pretty simple. It just needs include a
>>> renamed copy of the ohrrpgce-game executable, and exclude the .dll files
>>> that are normally in the windows zip.
>>>
>>> What about libraries? All we really need is SDL and SDL_mixer. Is it
>>> reasonable to just let people deal with that themselves? Like "If you are
>>> downloading a linux tarball, you already know how to install SDL and would
>>> resent any attempts I make to bundle it?"
>>>
>>> Is it reasonable to dump a copy of libSDL.so and libSDL_mixer.so into
>>> the same folder? I think that works?
>>>
>>> Is trying to build a statically linked Linux executable worth the effort?
>>>
>>> I think I will take a stab at the very simplest implementation of this
>>> (the don't bother with libraries approach), and we can refine it later.
>>>
>>> Also, once I get some feedback from The Wobbler and from Meatballsub
>>> about how their experiences with putting C.Kane and Ruin on Steam progress,
>>> I would like to think about a Distribute Menu option like "Export Steam
>>> Depot" or something along those lines
>>>
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