<div dir="ltr">Yes, I agree. Since the errors are all hidden if you're playing a game (although I don't think there are any released ones that use those scripts), it doesn't really matter. We wouldn't normally add backcompat to hide debug-only script errors.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 22:18, James Paige <<a href="mailto:Bob@hamsterrepublic.com" target="_blank">Bob@hamsterrepublic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Ah, okay, that makes sense. I thought it was something that was happening in all games on Mac.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What you describe doesn't sound like a problem, and we probably don't really need a backcompat bit.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 11:18 PM Ralph Versteegen <<a href="mailto:teeemcee@gmail.com" target="_blank">teeemcee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>He didn't get back, but I just tried and can reproduce the problem myself (I failed to test from Custom before, so error messages were hidden). The problem is that a script in pixel-walker v2.2 does this (simplified):</div><div> for(hero, 0, 3) do(<br> setSliceWidth(getHeroSlice(hero), ...)</div><div> ...<br> )</div><div>kylekrack was using fufluns.</div><div>pixel-walker v2.0 shows the same errors, but v1 from 2017 doesn't.<br></div><div><br></div><div>So, that's unfortunate. I think it would be difficult, messy, and bug-prone to support the old behaviour as backcompat as well as the new one.<br></div><div>However, pixel-walker v2.2 doesn't actually support caterpillar parties anyway (the gif demonstrating caterpillar parties that kylekrack posted is unreleased work). The whole reason I made this change was to make it easier for pixel-walker to properly support them.<br></div><div>I tested adding heroes to the party, with caterpillar party enabled, in pixelwalker v2.2 in nightlies and fufluns, and once you skip over the errors, they actually behave identically: the additional heroes appear on the map in the wrong location, like pushable NPCs that don't talk.</div><div>So I think the problem here is just that a script error is shown, not that we need to actually support the old hero slice behaviour (unless there's some other game which depends on them, which I think unlikely). Maybe we should add a backcompat bit which creates some dummy hero slices (which are never used) and returns them from getheroslice for nonexistant heroes.<br></div><div>But pixel-walker v2.0 was only released in February so the backcompat bit might just be a waste of time: alternatively we could do nothing. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 01:58, James Paige <<a href="mailto:Bob@hamsterrepublic.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob@hamsterrepublic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Did you ever find anything more about that invalid slice handle error on Mac?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 9:31 AM Ralph Versteegen <<a href="mailto:teeemcee@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">teeemcee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm still working through a handful of bugs; although probably only one (can't distrib for linux from recent Win10) is a blocker I think they're worth holding up the release another day or two for.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 05:37, James Paige <<a href="mailto:Bob@hamsterrepublic.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob@hamsterrepublic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I'll declare an RC on the forums if I have the tonight (it's grocery shopping night, so I'll have to Don my home-sewn mask and brave the crowds of people all keeping 2 meters apart)<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you want to squeeze in a few scripting commands on the weekend that is okay. Seems low risk to me.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">---</div><div dir="auto">James</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 12:47 PM Ralph Versteegen <<a href="mailto:teeemcee@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">teeemcee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>~3 days later~</div><div><br></div><div>Well, I got too ambitious afterall, but that's all my gorgonzola features done. ...Except I need to add a few script commands for blending. Hmm, and there are still a few bugs to fix. ("It's not a lot of stuff and won't take long.") When do you now want to release?<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 14:03, James Paige <<a href="mailto:Bob@hamsterrepublic.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob@hamsterrepublic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Sounds good to me :)</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 9:44 PM Ralph Versteegen <<a href="mailto:teeemcee@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">teeemcee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I know it's stretched out beyond the weekend, but I'm aiming to finish off the rest of my gorgonzola features today (aside from some bugfixes that I'll do post-RC).<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 09:46, James Paige <<a href="mailto:Bob@hamsterrepublic.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob@hamsterrepublic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hello, TMC!<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">After this weekend's batch of commits do you feel ready for a gorgonzola RC?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't mind waiting if you still have some stuffs you want to merge, but if not, let's do it now</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 8:23 PM Ralph Versteegen <<a href="mailto:teeemcee@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">teeemcee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm going to have to try not to get too ambitious!<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 14:25, James Paige <<a href="mailto:Bob@hamsterrepublic.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob@hamsterrepublic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Okay, in that case let's plan for RC on the 4th and target release on April 11th</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 9:21 PM Ralph Versteegen <<a href="mailto:teeemcee@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">teeemcee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>That release date snuck up on me, I only noticed it was so early in April a few days ago.</div><div>I've been simultaneously working on finishing off sprite transparency, fixing the numpad, battle system fixes, and physpeak, and all the switching back and forth has delayed everything. I also have a few other nearly done branches I'd like to merge, eg this one just needs testing and whatsnew+plotdict updates: <a href="https://bitbucket.org/rbv/ohrrpgce/branch/map_edge_wrap_or_crop" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/rbv/ohrrpgce/branch/map_edge_wrap_or_crop</a></div><div>All in all, it's not a lot of stuff and won't take long. But I'd like to delay RCs by at least a couple days so I can finish off some of these.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I looked over my todo list and don't see anything important except for fixing the shop UI when the price box is more than one line (I have a branch for that). I hope to get some more bugfixes done, though. I haven't addressed any of the crashrpt-submitted ones since last year (I was going to work on a way of keeping track of crashrpt reports after finishing the bugtracker migration)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Since there are 52 weeks in a year, I wonder whether 12 weeks for a release plus a week for RCs would divide more evenly? :P<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 09:39, James Paige <<a href="mailto:Bob@hamsterrepublic.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob@hamsterrepublic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>So, TMC! How are you feeling about the imminent release of Gorgonzola?</div><div><br></div><div>We had targeted Saturday April 4. We could ask people to test the current nightly builds as release candidates, and I think I can actually build the release on Saturday.</div><div><br></div><div>Will that plan still work okay with you?</div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div>James Paige<br></div></div>
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