[Ohrrpgce] Mac builds and SDL frameworks

Tue Dec 3 18:26:20 PST 2019

Well since the existing 64-bit copy of euc is in the PATH we don't need to
know where it is. We only need to pass EUC and EUDIR to scons for the other
(32-bit) build of euphoria, which should not be installed system-wide, it
should just be unpacked somewhere and *not* in the PATH.

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 03:45, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:

> So for Euphoria on the Mac build VM, we want both 32 and 64 bit euc, and
> we just need to know what path they are located at?
>
> Honestly I don't remember anything about how I set up euc there in the
> first place, so I'll have to find some time for detective work
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 8:40 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I did it and I certainly wouldn't have used XCode! Trying to using
>> a complex IDE that you have no experience with is my idea of a nightmare.
>>
>> I wrote some code to scan PATH for 32/64-bit euc, but I think I'd rather
>> just hardcode the paths into distrib-mac.sh than add a bunch more
>> complexity to SConscript which just amounts to a kludge, not a robust
>> solution. There are already plenty of hardcoded paths and URLs in the
>> nightly build scripts anyway.
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 23:45, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I found reports of people saying it couldn't be done (static oggenc on
>>> Mac that is) and one of somebody explaining that the reason it couldn't be
>>> done is because of a bug that Apple had "wontfixed" years ago. I was
>>> assuming they were talking about xcode . I didn't read any deeper
>>>
>>> I'll try to get 32 bit euphoria installed soon. Not sure if it will be
>>> today.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 3:51 AM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You found reports of people failing to build a statically linked oggenc
>>>> on Mac? I think I probably did it using macports.
>>>> I'm also reminded that I was interested in setting up a cross-compiling
>>>> toolchain to compile for Mac. I might still try it.
>>>>
>>>> But if we don't have oggenc, then that is what we'll have to do.
>>>>
>>>> Could you also please install a 32-bit Euphoria?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 23:45, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm... Googled about that a bit...
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe on Mac, if oggenc is not detected in the PATH, we link to a wiki
>>>>> page about importing sound on Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could suggest installing Audacity, and link to a Mac version of it.
>>>>> So people can just save .ogg files from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could also describe how to install oggenc with macports or brew if
>>>>> the user wants to go that route.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually figuring out how to build a staticly linked command line
>>>>> oggenc where so many others have failed is over my head, and outside the
>>>>> scope of what I want to attempt.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 10:44 PM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, great. However I don't have any solution to the madplay/oggenc
>>>>>> problem. Either you will have to solve it, or I'll have to set up a
>>>>>> hackintosh VM (which I probably should do anyway), or we simply need to
>>>>>> disable wav import in the mac port. (We could allow importing mp3s again,
>>>>>> that's another topic of discussion)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 05:59, James Paige <Bob at hamsterrepublic.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This all sounds good to me!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have installed all four of those frameworks at
>>>>>>> /Library/Frameworks/ on the nightly build mac vm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 9:10 PM Ralph Versteegen <teeemcee at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James, could you please install the following on the Mac nightly
>>>>>>>> build machine (in either system or user Frameworks dir)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/release/SDL_mixer-1.2.12.dmg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/release/SDL2_mixer-2.0.4.dmg
>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.15.dmg
>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL2-2.0.10.dmg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you already should have at least the SDL.framework and
>>>>>>>> SDL_mixer.framework, but just double-checking. Latest versions of both were
>>>>>>>> released 2013-08-17!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Those SDL/SDL_mixer 1.2 frameworks have been built as fat
>>>>>>>> binaries, and target OS 10.5+ while we target OS 10.4+, so I guess we will
>>>>>>>> continue to package 32-bit .apps with the wip/mac/frameworks.tar.gz builds
>>>>>>>> we already have. A alternative build of SDL.framework for OS 10.4+ is
>>>>>>>> available but they didn't make one available for SDL_mixer.framework)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will blindly modify the build scripts to package an 64-bit-only
>>>>>>>> gfx_sdl .app, and ask users to test whether it actually works, because I
>>>>>>>> can't. And also an experimental 64-bit gfx_sdl2 build, though I think that
>>>>>>>> shouldn't become the default until after Fufluns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said before, I think a good solution is to have two different
>>>>>>>> Mac builds:
>>>>>>>> -32 bit SDL 1.2 for OS 10.4+
>>>>>>>> -64 bit SDL 2 for OS 10.6+
>>>>>>>> We could then add two different options to the Distribute Game menu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, we could also create fat binary 32+64-bit .apps, which are
>>>>>>>> twice the size (OHRRPGCE-Game.app is currently 1.6MB zipped).
>>>>>>>> I guess that we could even package 32-bit gfx_sdl and 64-bit
>>>>>>>> gfx_sdl2 builds into a single .app.
>>>>>>>> However I think it will be a pain to set up and the number of
>>>>>>>> people using 32-bit Macs is low.
>>>>>>>> We have to make similar decisions about SDL 2 on Windows: it only
>>>>>>>> supports Win XP+.
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